Beyonder 73%. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within his realm. She isn't even the strongest female magic user, far from it actually. Also Beyonder obviously isn't mightier than TOAA virtue of TOAA literally being his author. The original Beyonder was created for the Secret Wars (1985) miniseries. 7 years ago. The power possessed by the Beyonders seems to dwarf all other beings in existence, with the exception of the One-Above-All, as the Beyonders were able to defeat and subsequently destroy every incarnation of every cosmic being that ruled over existence within a matter of months. True form DS power is unknown. Anyway Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than most of the shit in marvel including multiversal threats like Galactus and Thanos. Pre Retcon is still cooler, jist because of cosmology Expansion, defenders beyonder seems stronger but he is featless for now. -Beyonder/s are bloodlusted. Here, let me pull a Beyonder feat out of my ass: With mere thoughts, the Beyonder subjects the entirety of Earth and all of its' inhabitants (down to the very microbes) to his rule, causing the most powerful leaders to bow to him instantly. First Tier Mages vs Molecule Ma Round 1: The Mages are sane and aren't Marauders. my favourite DC tier 1 Beyonder: 1 TTR: Over 8 The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) Quantu. Lucifer is definitely Pre-Retcon Beyonder tier while the Living Tribunal has become a jobber these past few years. Yet beings like Nyatharlope can create infinite numbers of infinite universes of infinite dimensions easily. Using these lines of evidence, pre-retcon beyonder clearly wields greater control over reality than OT god. Lucifer Morningstar in character could probally beat him. He may have to resort to starving. Bonus round : pre retcon beyonder vs Rimuru. Name: Beyonder Origin: Marvel Tier: 1-B | 1-A Gender: Inapplicable Classification: Cosmic Entity Age: Unknown Abilites and Powers: Nigh Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Nigh Omniscience, Remote Mind Control, Reality Embodiment, Reality Condition, Physical Law Immunity, Reality Warping Weaknesses: None Notable Destructive Capacity: Beyond. So with that highballed literalized reasoning that Beyonder is an Ocean to Marvel's Existence and Multiverse and Gods like a droplet, Pre-Retcon Beyonder is at least, more than One hundred and. More than just high1-b, only this support for low 1-a. Age: Unknown. Powers and Stats. All of Thanos’ feats are fodder tier in comparison to him. Name: The Beyonder, The One From Beyond, The One Who Is All, "Frank," Kosmos, The Maker, The Broken One. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. 14 years ago. Servant tier -the gil that appears at fate stay night, fate strange fake and as a servant in fate go(not the alive gil). Originally posted by the Darkone Spectre at full powered is above the pre-recon beyonder, Spectre is powered by God, I'm sorry that's one Ace even the pre-recon Beyonder can't overcome. Pre-Retcon Beyonder just erases the Throne of Heroes, killing every single servant because servants are copies of heroes, made using information from the Throne of Heroes Or he could just wipe out the entire Fate universe and everything outside itHe unretconned himself and became Omega Beyonder, being just as powerful—potentially even more stronger then his Pre-Retcon version form/version that he used to be. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". " (Fun fact, guys like EGD and Beyonder exists outside. R2: God stomps. Some stuff from DC like Lucifer Morningstar. Tier: Stellar | Endless | Realium | Transcendent: Keys: Base Galactus power absorbed | Infamous Iron-Man | Dual Infinity Gauntlet God Emperor Doom | Pre-Retcon Beyonder absorbed: Extra: Simple words can't describe the glory of Dr Doom, as Galactus, he deserve more than 5 stars 😤 Beyonder and Lucifer gets blinked by Shinra with his narrative manipulation. 3. #1 KalKent1297. He grew into a weak-willed adult, made bitter and lonely by his mother's death, and full of fear and hatred of what he regarded as a deeply unfriendly world. . R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. Basically he is like the Amalgam Brothers, but so much powerful the Brothers would be microscopic in comparison. He wins. Dreamxd26 • 2 yr. There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. #8 Edited By Sungsam. Beyonder is tier High 1-B for being an infinite dimensional being meaning that the Marvel Universe has infinite dimensions confirmed. @amendment50 @jardinain2 @decaf_wizard @watcher5000 Can help you out with his feats. Bloodlust on. ;. . The Beyonder erases Death itself from the Multiverse, the Living Tribunal and his delegation politely beg the Beyonder to bring back Death to the Multiverse. HOTU has shit tier feats, as does Beyonder. When ranking the strength of characters the natural thing to go by first is physics. And Anyone that says Dragonball characters can beat someone like the Living Tribunal is delusional. which is. Name:' The Beyonder, The One From Beyond, The One Who is All, Frank. So, I looked at The Beyonder's(Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Lucifer could just tricked Beyonder like Molecule Man did to Beyonder. Not even remotely close. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. Wiki Points. but the other writers ruined and screwed up these characters. Thelastmlg said: thought robot is around baseline high hyperversal while beyonder is stronger that everyone in the marvel multiverse combined times some millions which includes the living tribunal and if i not wrong multi-eternity which both are baseline high hyperversal. #15 Azronger. 5 years ago Gojira25124-Beyonder True Omnipotent değildir sadece Hyperversal level omnipotenttir. The Scarlet King is a single universe outer God. The realm is known as the Engine Room, The Wild Spaces Beyond Reality, Heaven, The Mystery, The. Prepare for. The thing is though, "Pre-Retcon Beyonder" is the Beyonder circa Secret Wars II, 1985. Mephisto said that The Beyonder could make idlest imaginings a reality with a wave of his hand, turning all of existence inside out), Vibration Manipulation (Created an earthquake throughout the city), Attack Reflection (Deflected Magneto's power beam towards the X-Men), Magnetism Manipulation (Repelled Magneto by duplicating his own. -All the fundamental force of the multiverse (including Oblivion, Living Tribunal, Death, Eternity) kneeling in font of Stranger when he sought to use the power of the Phoenix Force to recreate 'all that is' and make himself 'all powerful'. Posts. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. The powers of the PRB are attributed as unlimited; omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder TOAA is Marvel and the Presence/Elaine Belloc is DC, but there's a quote by Jim Shooter and Stan Lee from Marvel that puts The Pre-Retcon Beyonder more higher--even above TOAA, (including Elaine Belloc AKA the Presence) and that's “being millions and millions of times more powerful than Marvel". As in you're taking the story at face value. Lucifer stomps. Not an expert on Beyonder, I just have a rough idea of his tier of power. Tier: At least Low 2-C, likely 2-A | At least Low 1-C, likely higher | 1-A Name: Alien X Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Likely billions of years old. Tier: 1-B | 1-A. Oblivion hasn't done anything himself aside from Quasar, and in Quasar, he stalemated. Random encounter. You need to be logged in to post comments. Elaine Belloc would win under both scenarios, 2nd would be pointless. Yujiro teaches the Beyond how to love, so I guess they both win. True Form Pennywise ain't on Pre-Retcon Beyonder's level, lol. You know that. Heck, even the ones who created said multiverse and pretty casually at that are massively inferior to him. From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. here is a fight that involves. The Beyonder is an Cosmic powerful being from beyond the Marvel multiverse In the "Secret Wars" storyline, he brought. Death only dealt with Dream so casually because of how the concepts they embody interact with each other. Doom pressed a button which stole all the Beyonder's power. TF Pennywise should actually be a tier below Beyonder. Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesAttack Potency: Multi-Continent level (Far superior to Spider-Man (Marvel Comics), should be comparable to his sidekick, Kratos | At least Outerverse level (Superior to Composite Spiderman, who at one point became the Beyonder (Pre-Retcon), his minion usurped Gan as the avatar of VSBW user Yobobojojo), likely far higher (Said to solo trash. Your right about Oblivion shockingly. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. Superhuman Strength: Superman Prime One Million has the ability to physically lift humongous levels of weight, and deliver physical blows of colossal magnitudes. TOAAPRESENCE1. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. Pennywise beyond infinite-D has no basis. Some overkill ones would be The Brothers Death (apart from maybe small death), Scarlet King, etc. Pre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Follow 1187. Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the Living Tribunal. Anyone trying to still argue Pre Retcon Beyonder is some Marvel top tier needs to have their info refreshed. In the comics Homelander’s best objective strength feat is throwing a fighter jet across a room and he doesn’t have anything comparable in the show. #. bonus: lỊch sỬ cÁc lẦn retcon cỦa beyonder – kẺ sỞ hỮu nhỮng feat bÁ ĐẠo nhẤt lỊch sỬ marvel comic. 124. This will be Pre-Retcon beyonder against John egbert with his Retcon powers Speed is equalized (Not that it matters cause both these boys are in the Immesruables) The Father : The So:. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. Sep 6, 2015. Pre-retcon Beyonder is beyond all that. 1st Retcon - Beyonder was a cosmic cube who dreamed everything (so SW & SW II did not happen) . ) Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. All reality was a dream created by Beyonder. Name: Beyonder. Takes place in an abandoned multiverse. Tbh fights at this level have unknown victories and are really just up to people's opinions at that point. The Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse which includes the Living Tribunal - Scan 1. The One Above All/Pre retcon Beyonder (both characters were created by legendary comic book writers Jack Kirby and Jim Shooter, Beyonder and OAA are avatars of these two comic book writers. Xeranthemum from Suggsverse, at least going by the wiki. A statement from Mephisto referring to that part of power as "so potenti is this. The Beyonder himself has been described as infinite-dimensional in a far more reliable and explicit narration, and been referred to as only possessing power. 4 years ago. Victor knows about Beyonder's powers so if he knows that LF is powerful than Cosmic cube why doesn't he just says “ Even the powers of The 'Cosmic cube' was nothing compared to. Apr 8, 2018. Source is responsible for high-tier multiversal beings that invoke omnipotent power to make ideas/concepts into being. 214. 12984. So, I looked at The Beyonder's(Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely,. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was something that no current DC character could handle. Origin: Marvel. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. All proof that is needed is the fact that he is beyond the marvel multiverse. This is before Beyonder's drop in status so his current status is "Above Michael and Lucifer". Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A. 1. beyonder (pre-retcon) old ones (the dark tower) the beyonders the dark tower Replies: 18; Forum: Versus Threads; the beyonders vs the Downstreamers. In other words the only feat the One Above All has that is confirmed is creating a reality of infinite. Multiversal. My only question is: Is that Pre-Retcon. -. Dimensional Tiering. Join this channel to get access to perks:…R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. and to give Beyonder a curiosity, a reason to visit Earth in SWII. (They Became the HOI, basically writer tier, or paper tier). Creation. TOBA is just TOAA's alternate persona. Matter of fact she doesn’t even beat Mister Mxyztplk. I have little knowledge on LT Unfourantlly other then he's a God Tier in. Pre-Retcon Beyonder wins fairly convincingly. Seriously, Nyarlathotep has done more than all the others listed and Demonbane pimpslapped her. Round 10: Presence And GEB ( Respect Thread for GEB) Both are. Hajun via feats and implied power. These sorts of characters tend to push higher on the scale occasionally -- notably, Molecule Man was able to match Pre-Retcon Beyonder and he and Franklin Richards recreated the multiverse. Beyonder is canonically a "child unit" of the BeyonderS that were the antagonists of the 2015 series- and those things wiped out the entire marvel abstract tier including LT without breaking a sweat. Yeah All Mighty Wins. 2. ^2 + DUR^1. Current Beyonder Tier upgrade CRT and coverup. Morals off. Oct 24, 2019PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. Yep. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael DemiurgosAll Mighty: better feats, bigger multiverse, didn't get KOed by one of his creations. Dec 24, 2015. Win by death, KO, incapBeyonder (Pre Retcon) Molecule Man(Pre Retcon) The Living Tribunal; Oblivion; Amatsu-Mikaboshi (Chaos King) Cosmic Entities. English Branch All Mighty can knock out SK tier entities by casting flood and elder gods who hold back from accidentally destroying entirety of existence are sitting in his shadows, that's enough for both lucifer and beyonder. Origin: Marvel Comics. SWI is still the best selling series. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Follow. Living Tribunal has been beaten by several characters that are weaker than. RealityWarper. 5)^2 + DUR^1. unlimited power to manipulate matter and energy; invulnerable. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. Yet beings like Nyatharlope can create infinite numbers of infinite universes of infinite dimensions easily. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Inhuman Mutant beyonder probably pretty sure it was his powers in spidey that let him remake all creation in a fraction of a second. Pre Retcon Beyonder was stated to be most powerful thing in all the almighty, and Oblivion first appeared in 1984 Ice Man. #15 Azronger. 2. as omnipotent deities in their respective realities, the OAA Dominates the Hoi Realm. He encompasses all of dimensionality, but he does not transcend it. we dont really see him at that tier because of how much good servants are at controlling collateral damage. According to that one guy Anos could do it, though I take that with a pinch of salt. In one of those layers of nonexistence, the one who would soon be known (in one incarnation) as SCP-343 comes into being. Multiversal. Phoenix isn't above Pre-Retcon Beyonder, Beyonder was merely overwhelmed by the knowledge that each individual has their own life and began to understand why he should care. ago No. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, as powerful as he is, is STILL bound by dimensionality. Eg: The D's from Tenchi Muyo!, Giygas from Earthbound, Kubik and Post - Retcon Beyonder both from Marvel Comics, Milleniummon from Digimon, and Q from Star Trek, Celestial level: Easily universe. The fight takes place in an empty galaxy. The Beyonder(Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. However, since infinite force and energy is the highest degree of strength that a character can reach in terms of physics there would be no level of power above what is necessary to destroy an infinite universe, i. The Beyonder(Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. here is a fight that involves. What teams could maybe stand a chance against pre-retcon Beyonder? Total defeat optional (if possible). Manhattan) and has recreated a galaxy. The Pre retcon Beyonder also known as (Original beyonder) is a fictional character in the Marvel Comics universe. Both Beyonder (assuming this is him outside his personal realm) and the Presence, since both are like Low 1-B, this could go either way. They may have gotten stronger and better feats post ret con but I. ProfessorRespect. If this. Pre retcon Beyonder is probably the closest you'd get, I'd say Lucifer could even beat the living tribunal, not really anyone else who comes close. laj11900 • 2 yr. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the literal principle and the executioner at the same time yes their was scans of Beyonder TANKing universe busting and faster than light attacks he even was able to. That's actually like a low showing for him. Marvel's Multiverse was not using Type III Multiversal Expansion. So as we know, Phoenix Force is an extremely powerful entity in Marvel. He's was designed by Jim Shooter to be a catch-all explanation for the existence of all the other fiction. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. Plot Manipulation user (Marvel Comics) Defenders: Beyond #1-5 Beyonder Post-Retcon: It was stated and proven that he was capable manipulating his own canonicity and is aware of his own pervious retcons. Open comment sort options Best; Top; New. 0. Gender: Inapplicable. Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. Basically, I am perfectly fine with rating pre-retcon Beyonder as likely 1-A, as Oblivion had already been established at the time, but if Marvel establishes a new character that. 664*10^25. CryptoA registered-source only wiki that is built upon stolen concepts (They stole from a Russian Wiki called Anime-Fight Club which just like Vsbattles Wiki is biased against comics) and known for stealing loads of information from Outskirts Battle Dome and Google+ (from my friends) and trying to pass it as if they know the information themselves until. Any of the Smash gods could do it, and so would the beings above. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). Word Lords, the Celestis, Faction Paradox, etc. 66. And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. ago. Strength. Beyonder 39%. ago. Belligerents: Composite Time Lords from Doctor Who and the Pre-retcon Beyonder from Marvel Comics. Older than the. Reece became a lowly laboratory technician working at a nuclear plant owned by the Acme Atomics. no one can tell, if he was less powerful than TOAA or equal, PR Beyonder was stated by Stan lee to be omnipotent, but the meaning of omnipotent is debatable. 3 years ago. Apparently due to the latest post about Doom people are claiming some Bleach characters like Aizen can beat The God Emperor. 1 of 2 Go to page. So BeyonderGod Beyonder > Cynical DemonbaneSearch titles only By: Search Advanced search…Beyonder by feats however after thinking about it i think EGD should win. Black winter lost to king thor with the power of galactus. I'm not taking sides. Yes I'am aware of that but you to remeber that with the Inhuman Beyonder was that this retcon took him back to his Pre-Retcon roots and also everything Pre-Retcon Beyonder did is still cannon to. PRB was millions of times more powerful than all the poster in the Multiverse combined. They live here, and decided to fuck shit up. Wiki Points. But that doesn't mean Perpetua's feats are bad. Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. But the Beyonder can destroy universal conceptual beings (as seen above when he kills death itself). That one time Phoenix Force making Pre Retcon Beyonder struggle: is this a testament to her power? Scan in question. bigbran. Universal. 0. He beat the Living Tribunal. They’re 50 tonners at most. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. everything else is nothing to him Galactus. True form DS power is unknown. He is the embodiment of the Beyonder Realm, a place much bigger than the Marvel Multiverse, outside of reality. Can Giratina save all of reality from his rage? Or will it die trying? Location: The Negative Zone Win by. Even if you want to argue that Beyonder is stronger, it doesn't matter, since Death has already feats of claiming infinite-dimensional entities, that are even. When super-amped Doom battled the Beyonder he got stomped hard. Rules: All tier zero characters from marvel are removed. Childlike and vastly powerful, he grew up in a universe created by the other Beyonders for their young. Nope that’s pre-retcon not post retcon. COIE Anti Monitor. I am not referring to the Beyonder pre-retcon much less to are discussing about the mysterious race that killed several cosmic entities and probably will be the main villains of the secret wars. 43. There is nothing he can do to hurt him while Beyonder can snap his finger and destroy Flash and the universe. Beyonder was affecting the entire Marvel multiverse or omniverse, or something like that, all at once. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. 4 years ago. Forums. Holy moley. The one below all (TOBA). Reply. 2. Living Tribunal is beyond Eternity, and Pre-Retcon Beyonder was more powerful than LT. If someone can actually name a more. so i think the only characters. Although marvel uses numbers to calculate; it's as if he's Alef Null x Billion beyond infinity that already exist, which Tribunal and many others have already transcended. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A(more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B(same as The Beyonder). While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they transformed Owen Reece into the Molecule Man. this is the Speed Tier List and how to put down the Speed on a Character Profile will be determined by these Reaction / Reflexes - the ability to distinguish between the movement of objects at a certain speed with a small distance (melee, less than 2 meters), with the possibility of taking any whatsoever countermeasures at this time, such as avoidance or. The Voice - This is the most "active" version of God, When The Voice uttered the first word, it created The Word. He also sits just below the prime meta-versal being in his respective property. So he could just kill them and the concepts they represent. THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. Featherine is way above than Beyonder. Forum Posts. Yakushimi. Pre retcon MM scared the cosmics of the 80s even as groups, they had to just let him pass by out of fear, even beg him to fight Beyonder. everything else is nothing to him Galactus. 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. Name: Lucifer Morningstar Origin: DC Comics Classification: Angel Gender: Male Age: 10,000,000,000+ Years old Strength Lifting: Speed: Nigh-Omnipresence Striking Speed: Striking Strength: Durability: Intelligence: Nigh-Omniscience Range: Multiverse+ Level Destructive capacity. 26,333. The Beyonders have nothing to do with Pre Retcon Beyonder. . Omnipotent, Beyonder organized an event called Secret Wars, in which he kidnapped the most important superheroes and supervillains in the Marvel universe, for a confrontation between them on a distant planet. Hell, Featherine Augustus Aurora is more "omnipotent" than him,. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. 3 years ago. I can break this down into more detail. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Well, they are treated as the same character, the Beyonder who showed up post-retcon is, canonically, the same Beyonder who showed up pre-Retcon. 13 years ago@TheLegendary32 said:. . Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. Divyansh13. . Abilites and Powers: Nigh Omnipotence,. That being said, Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the HIGHEST tier character Marvel ever had. With the tumor, Hajun has an Taiyoku level of Infinity . Dlaek66669; Thread;Business, Economics, and Finance. Again, I don’t kno Fu, but if he’s Hyperversal as ur sayin, or even higher, then he’d def beat Post-retcon. He was initially. Theoreticaly speaking yes Pre Retcon Beyonder is above TOAA simply because TOAA is the most powerful being in the marvel universe, and PRB is 1 million times more powerful than the collective. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. Almost any high tier character can beat him"Motion Carried!" ― Alien X Alien X is a sample of Celestialsapien DNA recorded in the Omnitrix that Ben Tennyson can utilize to take up the characteristics of a Celestialsapien. Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. Weaknesses. 213. And a similar amount more powerful than everything in the MU combined. The Beyonder, and Molecule man, are each. The One-Above-All - vs - Beyonder (Post-Retcon) # 35 K The One-Above-All Thats so * dumb, Post-retcon beyonder is universal+ and scales below eternity, pre-retcon beyonder might have a chance as he is the full beyond realm which infinitely transcends the main marvel multiverse TOAA includedBeyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his powers and abilities. Reply Slaine_Troyard •. Thanos w/ Astral Regulator is the strongest character in Marvel-verse. Honestly, current molecule man is a powerhouse even now, maybe even more so than his Pre-Retcon self. A Time Lords) from the. This proves by showing you that he read the writer's mind and was able to talk to him and not only that, shred the comic-book and escaping to reality in 'Defenders: Beyond (2022-23)'Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. Pre Retcon Beyonder. If we separate the pre-Retcon Beyonder from the current current lineup, it's probably more powerful than an infinite dimensional multiverse, and even the highest-level beings in it are far more powerful than those who didn't fully transcend the concept of dimension at the time. . 1,102. Tier: Stellar | Endless | Realium | Transcendent: Keys: Base Galactus power absorbed | Infamous Iron-Man | Dual Infinity Gauntlet God Emperor Doom | Pre-Retcon Beyonder absorbed: Extra: Simple words can't describe the glory of Dr Doom, as Galactus, he deserve more than 5 stars 😤Beyonder and Lucifer gets blinked by Shinra with his narrative manipulation. Marvel tends to have their top tier have very physical feats while lucifer's are more metaphysical. Beyonder was everything inside the Multi-verse. Again, I don’t kno Fu, but if he’s Hyperversal as ur sayin, or even higher, then he’d def beat Post-retcon. "But only in their dreams can men be truly free. #2. Even LT feared him and begged him not to do everything he did. He’s stronger than the one above all who is pretty much god above god. The Physical Timeline Multiverse of DC has changed sizes from being 52 Timelines. So much so that the MU was below it's notice. Even lower tier characters in Mythos would. Post-retcon isn’t anywhere near as powerful as Classic (Pre), but he’s still pretty powerful. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel : 2, 2016. This was obviously an insane level of power so he was eventually retconned to be weaker and also. VERDICT: For those unaware beyonder is not just 1-A: He's HIGH 1-A, FAR greater than infinity itself. The Primal Monitor is the whole DC. Grace ended months ago, but I'm pretty sure Aka's High 1-B key is being downgraded (still high 1-B but much lower on the tier). Beyonder pre retcon up to 1A and possible H1A Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. Manhattan is super strong. Ima go with byonder. 0. @amendment50 @jardinain2 @decaf_wizard @watcher5000 Can help you out with his feats. Forum Posts. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. Only if the Beyonder is in his realm, but that becomes a major stomp based on whats said here. And this character is an entire cardinal infinite tier below. Only the Great Evil Beast is equal to The Presence. Beyonder is a cosmic Marvel Comics comic entity created by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck and John Beatty. He still wins the fight imo . I am still wondering, the summary clearly says Racher Summers could beat the Beyonder if she absorbed all life force. Scathan has decided he no longer "Approves" of the beyonders exsistance. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . Named but mid-level Celestials. Trying to apply that to the Beyonder is meaningless, he may as well embody all of them considering his origin. Gen. Abraxas, the personification of the destruction of the multiverse, is likely somewhere around here, although since he only. I have him at Multiversal. 2 years ago. Round 3 Pre-retcon Beyonder takes this and with a good level of ease. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. • 1 year ago. It's Shown Here ''Upon reaching the House, he hid himself until the Defenders finished their business.